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Up Topic Discussion / Miscellaneous Discussion / hide the bulge?
- - By amber Date 2006-04-20 15:07
Does anyone have suggestions on how to hide that telltale bulge to be able to wear that stretch skirt or snug pants without the dead giveaway at the crotch?  I havn't quite figured that one out yet, and I need to before I can attempt to go in public dressed as a woman.
Amber
Parent - - By Dianna Date 2006-04-20 21:34

> to be able to wear that stretch skirt or snug pants without the dead giveaway at the crotch?


Others will tell you how to "tuck" --
or you can do a Search (upper right corner of this page) for posts with information on the word Tuck..

I am going to make a different suggestion...

Unless you have a to-die-for sexy young body, avoid going out in public in stretch or tight clothing.
Unless you are about 20 years old or younger, avoid going out in public in stretch or tight clothing.

Stretch or tight clothing sends a strong signal of "available for sex".

I know that many in our community love to look sexy in front of a mirror,
but out in public, unless you are available to men for sex, its not a good idea to advertise that you are.

Before you are ready to go out in public en femme, in the female role,
take some time to study what most women your age and social status wear,
and what they wear in the places you are going to go.

For an extreme example, note that there are no women who walk the shopping malls wearing evening gowns or sparkles or super high heels...
The super model look is also not too common among women out walking around.
bu tdon't take my word -- go to where you plan to go,
when -- what time frame -- you plan to go,
and do some homework -- study -- of other women your age.

Assimilating at this level, will do more to stop problems, than anything else you can do.
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-04-21 02:56
Thanks for the suggestion, I've been doing a lot of studying to see what women of my age group are wearing, although it's hard to tell if they're my age group sometimes, unless they're frumpy.  There's quite the variety of casual clothes that are appropiate, but even a pair of jeans can show a bulge if it's not tucked away somehow.  I'll do a search and see what I come up with
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-04-21 14:22
Well, I didnt really find much that was useful with the search, a little about tucking or stuffing, but not much that was "how to do it" so if anybody would like to offer any advice, feel free to do so.
Thanks    Amber
Parent - - By Dianna Date 2006-04-21 14:47

> not much that was "how to do it" so if anybody would like to offer any advice


Pull your penis and testicles down and then back,
back between your legs toward your anus, as far as you can.
Sometimes it helps to reach around and pull everything back, from behind,
depending on how your things are "built".
This is called "tucking".

Some people have body cavities in that area, where things can be stuffed up into the body a little bit.
This is kind of rare.

Most people can use a tight pair of wide crotch panties, or a panty girdle, to hold everything in this position.
Yes -- this eliminates the potential for wearing of sexy underware, thongs, etc. right next to your skin.
Those are for wearing after SRS.

I have seen suggestions that involve duct tape to hold the tuck in place -- I really do NOT recommend this.

Remember that when you are out in the world "freshly tucked", you may have to use the restroom.
Make certain that you can actually *use* the restroom, i.e., get untucked, if necessary.
(One more reason to NOT use duct tape)

Also, check to make sure you can sit, stand, and walk without injurying "Big Jim and the Twins".
It is VERY hard to walk a sexy walk, when the testes are in great pain.

And do not stay tucked for too long a period of time -- it can damage things to do so.
Being constantly tucked can make one sterile -- unable to father children.
No, there is no line-in-the-sand amount of time before this will happen.
Your mileage may vary.

Thought:
Unless one is male porn star large, or female model beautiful,
no one else, out in the world, is crotch watching.
It is not common at all for other people to be checking out women's crotches, looking for bulges.

Other people will of course look at breasts.
And it must be noted that as women age, their breasts move downward on their chest.
One of the biggest appearance mistakes TG/TS M2Fs make,
is wearing their breasts too high on their chest, for their age.
THAT will give one away -- cause a person to be "read" -- FAR more quickly than any crotch bulge.
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-04-21 15:03
Thanks for the info Dianna, I'm not worried about sterility, I've had a vascetomy for 25 years now, so that's not an issue for me, although I suspect that may have something to do with my body's resistance to the E and F, theres always excess sperm in the ducts with no where to go.  Of course, it may have nothing to do with anything, too.  I've read that it may have an adverse long term effect on prostate health though.
  Using tape is not on my list of things to do, I have to pee too often.
  I've seen gaffs for sale at a couple of places, I wonder if they'd be any more effective than a panty girdle.  I've seen panty girdles with the hip and butt pads several places, thought about getting a couple of those, but I wonder if they look fake under pants.  I don't have much hips, but I know several women built much like me in that area, I just need to find slim fit pants with not too much hip swell, I saw a post that suggested junior sizes, don't know if that's right or not.
Amber
Parent - - By Dianna Date 2006-04-21 16:10

> vascetomy [...] although I suspect that may have something to do with my body's resistance to the E and F, theres always excess sperm in the ducts with no where to go.


The vasectomy has no relationship to what changing of hormones can do.
Sperm or no sperm, has no relationship to what the changing of hormones can do.

Your body is not "resisting" Evanesce or Feminol --
it is simply a matter of inertia -- of getting the "truck" to slow to a stop,
and then restarting it once again going down a new road.
Some trucks have more inertia than other trucks have.

20-30 years ago, when Premarin was all there was to feminize a male-bodied person,
for some people it could be 6-10 months on near lethal dosages of Premarin before any physical changes began...
It just takes patience to get the inertia reversed and running in a new direction, no matter what is being used.
And this is primarily about getting the testosterone production monster significantly reduced, first.

Nothing changes as quickly as we would like for it to, ever.
And often, that is a blessing in disguise.
Especially when other things like electrolysis, and work and family and friends things must be resolved.

On another note,
One of the best things you can do to maintain prostate health, is to have fairly frequent sexual "release".
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-04-22 12:59
I wonder how much of the prostate health things will be necessary after the T finally goes down to a low level.  Does the estrogen cause the prostate to shrink?  I remember hearing that estrogen was an option to be used in the treatment of slow growth prostate cancer, but most men didn't use it because of the "side effects".  This was 20 years ago so I don't know if it's still offered as a treatment option.
Parent - By Dakota Lynn Date 2006-04-22 14:04

> This was 20 years ago so I don't know if it's still offered as a treatment option.


Yes Ma'am it is.

Daks
Parent - - By Dianna Date 2006-04-22 14:52

> I wonder how much of the prostate health things will be necessary after the T finally goes down to a low level. 
> Does the estrogen cause the prostate to shrink?


No -- the prostate does not shrink.

The primary cause of prostate problems, is DHT.
That is Di-Hydro-Testosterone, the same testosterone derivative which causes male-pattern baldness.
Reducing overall testosterone levels will reduce or eliminate the production of DHT.

The reason estrogen supplements are one option given for prostate health,
is that estrogen supplements by themselves will eventually reduce testosterone output.
However, this estrogen supplement treatment is not done aggressively by the doctor,
because this treatment has a potential side effect of breast growth
which is something most men do not want.

Through the years, my doctors have told me that the best thing a person can do for prostate health,
is to enable ejaculation from time to time.
Many males, as they age, lose interest in sex... their sex drive goes to almost zero.
This then forms the basis for many/most prostate problems.

The herb Saw Palmetto, is very good for prostate health,
because in a male bodied person, Saw Palmetto raises testosterone levels, and therefore sex drive.
Several medical studies have shown Saw Palmetto to be even better for prostate health than any drugs currently available.

For a male-bodied person in transition to female, though, Saw Palmetto is not a good idea,
because raising testosterone levels is counter-productive to feminization.
Increasing estrogen, along with testosterone blockers reducing or eliminating DHT,
will do the job of helping to protect the prostate.

Damiana is a common ingrediant in made-for-women breast growth products...
Damiana also will increase testosterone levels if used by a male-bodied person,
and this herb can really stress the liver.  Damiana is NOT liver friendly.

The prostate is not ever removed during SRS.
There is no known history of prostate cancer in post op M2F.
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-04-27 15:35
I was using a saw palmetto supplement when I started on E, I quit using it a couple of weeks ago, maybe that's partly why I've been slow to see any changes, the E had to fight the increased T level from the saw palmetto, that would make some sense.  Something I've always been curious about, how does one get "release" for the prostate after SRS, maybe a dumb question, but.....
Parent - - By happousai Date 2006-04-30 00:11
I thought prostate cancer becomes almost impossible if the testicles are removed.
Parent - By jamie Date 2006-05-01 10:58
i have had a handful of doctors and surgeons express this to me, however it should be checked periodically.
which is why it is important to find a doctor you are comfy with who knows your history.

hugz
jamie
Parent - - By Dianna Date 2006-04-30 16:24

> how does one get "release" for the prostate after SRS, maybe a dumb question, but.....


"Release" is not important after SRS, or after orchidectomy, because the prostate no longer is a reservior for semen.

The prostate should be relatively safe from, cancer, but it still should be checked from time to time...
which most post-op TSs find very disgusting to ask for.
Parent - By jamie Date 2006-05-01 10:59
the prostate still plays an important role in ORGASM post op.
believe me i am living proof.
hugz
jamie
Parent - - By jamie Date 2006-05-01 10:56
by release are you speaking of semen or other form of liquid ejaculate?

well with a penis what path does it travel through to be 'released'?

i had nothing more than cosmetic srs with and when i am sexually aroused i get wet and when i have an orgasm i get wet.
it is not anything near what one would experience born into a female body but it does occur nonetheless.

hugz
jamie
Parent - - By amber Date 2006-05-01 14:55
I was thinking of the prostate fluid, which I assume is still made by the prostate even with almost no testosterone in the body.  I don't know much about that though, thus my question.
Parent - - By jamie Date 2006-05-02 09:36
it still continues to produce it.
however, when one has had their male organs removed or dramatically altered, the release is less frequent and much different with less released than with the male parts in place.
lets face it, the entire male reproductive system is a canon hehehe.
orgasm as or like a female is a building dream unlike the explosion and its over orgasm of a male.
this is from a prostate site....
'If surgical castration is performed, the adrenal glands compensate for the removal of the testicles by producing more male hormone. Even after having his testicles removed, a man will have to take drugs to block the flow of male hormone.'

hugz
jamie
Parent - By amber Date 2006-05-02 13:19
Thanks for the info, it's quite interesting.
Amber
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