Blood Clotting

By Dianna On 2010-06-28 12:45PM

> From what I've read, there's a potential thinning of the blood that happens in herbal estrogens.
> Or do I have it backwards and there's a bit of clotting potential?

Estrogen increases the potential for blood clotting,
regardless of the source of estrogen:
drugs, herbal formulations, or the human body's own endrocrine system.

That said, women do tend to live longer then men tend to live.

It should be noted that estrogen alone does not cause blood clots,
but it does increase the risk of blood clots forming by several times.

Clotting is not the opposite of thinning, in this discussion.

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By Bcomingbrenda On 2010-06-28 02:59PM

Thanks for the information. As always, clear and to the point.
I wish my question was that way. I've seen some herbal information that states, for instance, red clover tends to inhibit coagulation. To the uneducated (me) that seems like a balance to estrogens. However, uneducated as I may be on this, I'll bet the barn it's all dependant on the formulas.
But you also raise another question from me about the life span of women vs. men. Take away the suicide rate from TG, does the lifespan of M to F increase? It would be a sweet irony if the average fell right between men and women.
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By Dianna On 2010-06-28 05:58PM

> I've seen some herbal information that states, for instance, red clover tends to inhibit coagulation.

There is much information on the internet, to support each side of the Red Clover debate,
with regard to blood clotting potential.
As many web sites say it can reduce the potential for clotting,
as say it can increase the potential for clotting.

> Take away the suicide rate from TG, does the lifespan of M to F increase?

We can only assume that it might, that it should ....

We do not have that many known elder M2F TG/TS, that statistics can be established.
Yet.
It would be great if we had statistics, for life and health insurance reasons....

The Grande Dame of the M2F TG/TS community, Virginia Prince, was 96 years old when she passed, a couple of years ago.

Christine Jorgensen, the first public post-op TS in 1952, was 63 when she died of cancer. in 1989.

And there is really no way to know the suicide rate for M2F TG/TSs,
because SO many are SO deeply hidden in their closet.

We really do not know the death rate from M2F TG/TSs, from over-medicating,
from mis-medicating.
There is no way to know, to collect this data.
We know it happens, but there is no place, no person, to collect data.

As long time readers of this Forum know,
Four of my friends died overdosing on drug hormones,
trying to force a result their bodies could neither achieve nor sustain in the short term.

There are no statistics for people who commit suicide after Sex Reassignment Surgery, either...
Should that population BE counted in this? .... ..... ....

When I started doing this counseling work, over 30 years ago,
there were several universities which had M2F TG/TS transition programs,
but in the application process way back then, was a requirement for the individuals to include a picture of themselves en femme.

The male medical professionals in charge of these programs did not want the world to have any more, less-than-attractive, women.
If a person was not going to be beautiful, in their view, that person could not be part of the program.
THAT caused suicides, as you could imagine....

Counting anything or anyone in this community is like herding cats.

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